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Some Horror Stories Of Harassment At Californian Universities

Sean Carroll has posted about other feminist tirade, Timothy Slater, an astronomer, who did his most terrifying crimes before 2004. So inward this case, it's to a greater extent than than 10 years ago.

What did Slater do? He did things
...such as gifting a pupil a cucumber-shaped vibrator, going to strip clubs for lunch, as well as openly commenting on women’s bodies.
A cucumber vibrator gift is a prank that many people including myself consider likewise sensitive as well as stupid. But it is non a crime, it is a empty-headed joke (as the most upvoted comment nether Speier's video says as well). Before the left-wing authoritarians restrained our companionship inward thence many ways, people were doing similar jokes all the time. Some of them were viewed as legendary, others didn't halt upwards beingness thence good.

Does anyone believe that the respite of a tenured professor is an appropriate reaction to a cucumber-shaped gift?

Going to strip clubs is bad? They're just legal. Richard Feynman frequented strip clubs where he spent many hours a day. And he wasn't just looking. He slept amongst numerous woman somebody employees – as well as amongst woman somebody students, too. It was said to receive got contributed to his productivity. Or was Slater a criminal because he went to strip clubs during the lunchtime? Why does it matter? He is allowed to pass the lunchtime exterior his office.

Commenting on women's bodies? I retrieve that I generally don't practise such things but people do. Sometimes it's fun. When I was examined from undergraduate electromagnetism, a woman somebody classmate came before me. She got a "3", basically a "C" (she had just decided to specialize inward meteorology). When I came to the office, the teacher – presently to move the dean of my Alma Mater – said: "She has dainty legs, doesn't she?" – "Yes, but you lot gave her a C," I replied – "Well, I did, but that wasn't for her legs!" ;-) The teacher has preemptively rejected a perhaps intriguing causal relationship.

It was absolutely fair, sort of funny, but it was silent a comment on her body. And she was reasonably pleased past times the compliment when I told her. I don't retrieve that it would receive got been possible for someone to complain close such things dorsum inward the mid 1990s. After all, a faculty fellow member I was (even) much closer professionally as well as otherwise to than to the electromagnetism teacher knew this detail classmate's parts that were much to a greater extent than intimate than just legs. They got married at close the same time. I retrieve that the thought that romantic relationships of this sort should endure banned is similar an thought imported from the Muslim world. It's just non something that should receive got a jeopardy inward the Western civilization.

Carroll's rant apace mentions several other stories close professors who were charged of large crimes past times the feminist police.

Christian Ott, a immature large shot Caltech astrophysics tenured professor, was fired after 2 woman somebody students claimed that he "fired" i of her after she refused him as a romantic partner. Now, the literal give-and-take "fired" can't endure correct because an private professor can't really "fire" grad students at Caltech. But OK, let's assume that he greatly contributed to that. It's non how the fate of students etc. should endure decided inward the ideal world, I think.

On the other hand, I practise retrieve that people similar him should receive got the liberty to pick out as well as burn his subordinates inward ways that these people consider optimized. If a daughter who has rejected them is a job – as well as it's non difficult to imagine that it could endure – they should receive got the correct to suit things differently. If this hiring as well as firing strategy makes their output disappear, they volition endure for that. But if they care to maintain their contributions to scientific discipline high fifty-fifty amongst these arrangements, I don't encounter anything incorrect close it. People should endeavor to endure happy as well as to cooperate amongst someone who reminds them of their broken nub may endure a problem. And yes, I retrieve that it's the local genuinely competent professors similar Ott who should actually brand many of these hiring, firing, as well as grading decisions (much similar owners or managers or private companies), non people similar the Congressbitch above.

I am inward no agency praising Ott's reactions to his broken heart, whatever they precisely were (because of quite about experience, I don't retrieve that we're told the total truth), as well as I don't fifty-fifty retrieve that a cucumber vibrator is likewise funny a gift (although it would in all probability brand me express joy for a while, anyway, as well as I would bet that the gift was to a greater extent than useful, pleasing, as well as practical than we're told). But what I practise notice much to a greater extent than of import is that the actual, competent (and oft stellar) scientists maintain their basic freedoms – which includes the liberty to practise research, liberty to frequent strip clubs, liberty of speech, liberty to autumn inward love, liberty to learn married, liberty to burn as well as hire if they receive got the corresponding positions etc. – as well as that the politicians or ideologically-driven committees of brownish shirts similar to Sean Carroll won't accept all these rights as well as duties from them.

Science just can't move similar that. Slater, Ott, as well as Marcy could receive got done about controversial but legal things partly inspired past times their sexual interests. But they receive got also greatly contributed to science. Congressbitch Jackie Speier hasn't tangibly contributed anything to whatever field, as well as neither receive got the woman somebody students whom she wants to hire as snitches expected to toxicant the atmosphere inward all the physics as well as astro departments. Scientists are employed to practise scientific discipline as well as growth the human knowledge, as well as to receive got plenty fun spell doing thence which is needed for them to rest happy as well as active. They are non hired amongst the occupation of serving as role models for pathological political ideologies such as feminism or helping to maintain the absurd superstitions close women's beingness every bit expert physicists inward average as well as similar empty-headed materials similar that. Some people may believe that the 2 sexes are every bit expert at mathematics or physics – just similar about people may believe inward Allah – but in that place can't endure whatever duty for the physicists as well as astronomers to endure a percentage of these 2 (or other) religious cults.

In the recent decade or two, the influence of similar Congressbitches as well as their allies, ordinarily third as well as quaternary shape scholars, has dramatically strengthened inward the Academia. Their farther expansion already existentially threatens scientific discipline as well as the progress inward the whole Western society.



P.S. In the Preposterous Universe comments, Mark S. talks close studies that demonstrate that it's the men as well as non women who are facing additional hurdles these days. The pendulum has swung to the other side.

There are about feminist comments, however. Melanie offers her 2 ain horror stories. The get-go one:
When I was an undergraduate, on my agency to get-go hateful solar daytime of quantum mechanics class, I was riding upwards inward the rear amongst the professor as well as several (male) students. The professor kindly informed us that this would endure the shape that “separated the men from the boys.”
This is a existent tragedy. This "separation of the men from the boys" is an quondam saying – I've heard similar things many times, too. Melanie, you lot certainly don't desire to ban such proverbs just because nosotros receive got girls inward physics these days, practise you? An intelligent woman somebody pupil knows that:
  1. She tin ever ignore such comments if she wishes, they are basically inconsequential.
  2. The words "men" as well as "boys" are used because they are concise as well as audio clear but to about (very large) extent, they apply almost every bit to girls as well, as well as it's obvious that the shape may divide girls from the adult women, too, as well as an intelligent college pupil should endure able to build this woman somebody version of the judgement past times herself.
  3. There really are differences betwixt the girls' as well as boys' puberty. The girls' puberty takes house earlier. The boys' puberty takes house after as well as is changing the boys inward physical respects (just similar for girls) but also spiritual respects that are arguably deeper than for girls.
Melanie's minute horror even claims that an Argentinian woman somebody pupil was thence used to physics classes inward Argentine Republic that are total of girls that she thought that a U.S.A. of America shape was a boys-only class.

Concerning this Argentinian paradise where men as well as women are already 50-50, it's interesting that if you lot Google search for Argentinian physicists, you lot learn a listing of pictures of Maldacena, Bunge, Balseiro, Sabato, Paz, Pullin, Virasoro, Navarro, Gaviolla, Gaede, Hartmann, Carena, Robba, as well as Alignasse, as well as exclusively Carena is female!

So the thought that physics is non generally a job concern of males inward Argentine Republic is clearly a empty-headed fairy-tale. You must know that Melanie, right? And inward particular, you lot know that Juan is a boy's name, don't you? Well, if you lot don't, permit me instruct you: Juan is an El NiƱo. Hey chico, are you lot ready? ;-) H5N1 catchy song.

The commenter named "ks" (and later, Phillip Helbig as well) criticized Carroll's text as follows:
What does “too cutthroat” receive got to practise amongst harassment as well as gender bias? Mixing the 2 inward the same article gives the (presumably unintended) impression that the land needs to endure less cutthroat thence that women tin compete. Being likewise cutthroat is a divide problem, but men as well as women are both every bit capable of dealing amongst that problem.
Right. This shows the hypocrisy of Carroll's stories. On i hand, he deplores everyone who believes that girls are unlike or worse inward about detail skills. On the other hand, he equates cutting of the pharynx amongst male-only skills. So which agency it goes, Mr Carroll? As I said, spell the aggressiveness may sometimes endure helpful, it's far from beingness the principal or exclusively relevant skill. But inward average, men are improve inward that science as well as this is a percentage of their advantage, too.

Bart Janssen:
I handle amongst almost everything you’ve said. There is no argue for harassment to move along as well as quite but it’s a job amongst us males (almost ever – the exceptions are likewise rare to bother considering).
If from your viewpoint, there's a job amongst your beingness a male, why don't you lot undergo chemic castration similar Scott Aaronson?
I practise nevertheless quibble amongst this
“Academia volition ever necessarily be, inward about sense, competitive”

It’s just non true. It is also unsurprisingly a really masculine approach. Science is best when it is collaborative.
Oh, I see, you lot already have. You know, people as well as teams cooperate as well as the whole scientific discipline has about spirit of cooperation because people ultimately build the same "structure" that sort of belongs to the whole mankind. But just similar inward the manufacture as well as the commercial sector, this procedure but couldn't move without the competitiveness.

In i of his numerous comments, Phillip Helbig calls for a populace listing of subpar woman somebody researchers who exclusively got their chore because of their achieved husbands.

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