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Florin Moldoveanu discusses a idea experiment – but go certain that it may go turned into a existent experiment – called "Einstein's box" (although it's non "the" famous Einstein's box setup from the Bohr-Einstein debates).
Are Einstein's Boxes an declaration for nonlocality?
It seems unbelievable that an undergraduate occupation that is hence rudimentary is existence "solved" incorrectly past times the writer of a mass on foundations quantum mechanics every bit good every bit Moldoveanu himself.

The occupation is the following: Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 quantum mechanical particle is located inwards a box. The moving ridge business office \(\psi(x,y,z)\) isn't specified in addition to both men pretend that they don't demand to verbalize virtually it at all. But let's suppose that it's the solid put down patch of a potential good – a moving ridge business office that is existent in addition to positive inside, e.g.\[

\sin x \cdot \sin y \cdot \sin z

\] assuming that the box is defined past times \(\{x,y,z\}\in (0,\pi)\). I emphasize that the probability distribution \(\abs{\psi}^2\) for the particle's seat is inwards no way uniform – when it's inwards the solid put down patch (lowest liberate energy eigenstate), the particle is unlikely to go rattling just about the vi walls (and much to a greater extent than unlikely to go just about the 12 edges in addition to super-unlikely to go just about the eight corners). Now, a barrier is inserted inwards the oculus of the box, e.g. at \(x=\pi/2\) inwards my conventions. The inquiry is what is the moving ridge business office after this insertion in addition to whether the moving ridge business office loses the powerfulness to interfere – loses the data virtually the relative stage of the component of the moving ridge business office inwards the \(x\lt \pi/2\) "B1" half-box in addition to inwards the \(x\gt \pi/2\) "B2" half-box.




Moldoveanu correctly disagrees amongst a totally wrong mass promoting Bohmism in addition to written past times Jean Bricmont. Most of Bricmont's "arguments" are meant to "prove" that there's nonlocality inwards Nature in addition to concerning Einstein's box, he promotes the next dilemma:
Here is the dilemma: either at that topographic point is activeness at a distance inwards nature (opening B1 changes the province of affairs at B2), or the particle was inwards B2 all along in addition to quantum mechanics is incomplete because\[

\frac{\ket{B_1}+\ket{B_2}}{\sqrt 2}

\] does non depict what is going on.
This claim is clearly wrong. Quantum mechanics is consummate in addition to at that topographic point is no nonlocality. In fact, in 1 lawsuit the box is divided (let's assume that nosotros create hence quickly, much faster than the timescale needed past times the particle to locomote from 1 side of the box to the other one), the moving ridge business office remains just the same.




Moldoveanu correctly says, using a bold confront font:
My remove keep on this is that the dilemma is incorrect.
So far hence good. However, the next judgement is already consummate rubbish:
Splitting the box amounts to a measuring regardless if you lot hold back within the boxes or non in addition to the particle volition go inwards either B1 or B2.
What? This is just hence stupid. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 procedure can't "amount" to a measuring if it is non a measurement. And a measuring is a procedure that leads an observer to larn some actual information that the observer mightiness utilisation if he wanted. When a barrier is just moving from 1 house or another, no 1 has to larn anything. It's but non a damn measurement.

An intelligent undergraduate pupil of physics should know how to depict the uncomplicated occupation after the foremost 5 lectures inwards the foremost class on quantum mechanics. We may care for the barrier within the box every bit a classical object. The unmarried particle inwards the box is conserved in addition to its propagation inwards the surroundings of the changing box may go captured past times a uncomplicated time-dependent Hamiltonian.

So at the beginning, the Hamiltonian was\[

H(t) = \frac{p^2}{2m} + V(x,y,z;t)

\] where \(V(x,y,z;t)=0\) within the box (\(\pi \times \pi\times \pi\)) or \(\infty\) exterior the box. To insert the box agency to gradually but chop-chop plenty add together some other term to \(V(x,y,z;t)\) which is likewise \(\infty\) somewhere on a "plate" nigh \(x=\pi /2\), inwards the oculus of the box. (You would remove keep to determine whether the barrier gradually strengthens everywhere at in 1 lawsuit or whether you lot are moving it from 1 side of the box. The qualitative conclusions won't go affected.) Let's assume that all the walls including the barrier are reflective.

When you lot create it, what happens to the particle? It is but described past times a moving ridge business office that obeys Schrödinger's equation amongst the time-dependent Hamiltonian. So right away after the wall arises, the particle has the same moving ridge business office that I mentioned at the top. With the wall, the moving ridge business office volition evolve in addition to won't go quite stationary. Note that the solid put down patch of the divided-box Hamiltonian (for the box amongst the barrier) volition go something like\[

\left|\sin 2x\right| \cdot \sin y \cdot \sin z

\] within both parts of the box. However, the initial moving ridge business office – which was a solid put down patch of the old, undivided Hamiltonian – won't evolve to the solid put down patch of the novel Hamiltonian. There's no argue for such a uncomplicated rule. Such an development "ground patch to solid put down state" would exclusively go a sensible supposition if the wall were inserted slowly, adiabatically. I made the opposite assumption.

Well, if the wall is inserted slowly, the adiabatic approximation is OK in addition to the master copy solid put down patch amongst the element \(\sin x\) evolves to the divided-box solid put down patch amongst the element \(\left|\sin 2x\right|\). These moving ridge functions aren't identical – some other "detail" that all those "interpreters" completely obscure. But the business office amongst \(\left|\sin 2x\right|\) may go considered every bit the "actual" shape of the moving ridge business office that Bricmont in addition to Moldoveanu sloppily call\[

\frac{\ket{B_1}+\ket{B_2}}{\sqrt 2}

\] So has the "which half-box" data been measured? Not at all. No photon etc. that would go sensitive to the particle's seat has been sent anywhere, hence this data couldn't remove keep been measured. Moldoveanu's claim to the opposite is absolutely idiotic.

He wrote 3 segments or sentences inwards the bold face. I remove keep already quoted the foremost segment. The minute 1 says:
Do you lot acquire interference or not? I say you lot volition non acquire whatever interference because past times weighing the boxes before releasing the particle within the interferometer gives you lot the which way information.
What? Of course, no interference disappears just because a box was divided to 2 parts. The interference phenomena consequence from the data virtually the relative quantum stage betwixt the 2 parts of the moving ridge function, the component within B1 in addition to the component within B2. At to the lowest degree at the beginning, the data virtually this relative stage is perfectly known in addition to calculable.

What may spill out is that after some time, the phases of both parts of the moving ridge business office evolve chop-chop in addition to independently in addition to the 2 half-boxes' sizes differ a bit. Consequently, the relative stage may chop-chop alter amongst fourth dimension every bit good in addition to boot the bucket unknown some fourth dimension later. In practice, our powerfulness to clitoris an interference designing may acquire harder because of that.

But if the half-boxes are just the same inwards size in addition to if nosotros create the experiments chop-chop enough, no measuring has been done, no collapse has taken place, in addition to of class the relative stage is there.

Moldoveanu repeats the totally wrong claim virtually the collapse – which hasn't taken house – inwards several forms in addition to the concluding bold confront comment says:
Nature in addition to quantum mechanics is contextual: when nosotros create innovate the divider the experimental context changes.
This is an extremely vague judgement incorporating some buzzwords they like. "Contextuality" is 1 of them. OK, is Nature in addition to quantum mechanics contextual? It depends what you lot just hateful past times this word. If you lot hateful it every bit a stupid postmodern, ideologically distorted synonym for Bohr's complementarity, in addition to then yes, Nature in addition to quantum mechanics are "contextual" (because they're complementary inwards Bohr's sense).

However, that's clearly non what Moldoveanu in addition to similar would-be researchers of quantum mechanics mean. They e'er remove keep some totally wrong classical model inwards mind. They e'er retrieve that Nature follows the full general laws of classical physics good before it does – their supposed measuring (and the loss of the data virtually relative quantum phases) e'er takes house prematurely which is why most of their predictions (e.g. Moldoveanu's prediction that the interference patterns must disappear) are just wrong.

In particular, Moldoveanu believes that observations remove keep house spontaneously in addition to without observers – in addition to that's how the experimental context changes. No, observations can't remove keep house without observations i.e. without observers who larn some information. So if the existence of these apparently forbidden processes (by quantum mechanics) is an inseparable component of your agreement of the discussion "contextuality" or whatever other buzzword, in addition to then these buzzwords are but in addition to fundamentally wrong.

The experimental context changes when you lot brand the Hamiltonian time-dependent (by moving a barrier) but the graphic symbol in addition to implication of this alter is completely different than what Moldoveanu envisions.

Can nosotros delight concord that Mr Bricmont in addition to Mr Moldoveanu don't empathise the basic quantum mechanics that goodness undergraduate students should larn after the foremost 5 lectures if non earlier? I am hence offended past times these self-evident crackpots who don't remove keep a clue fifty-fifty virtually the basics but who endeavor to marketplace themselves every bit experts, anyway.

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